Comments on: Common Purpose are the seven-foot-high lizards who really run Birmingham http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/ Create something every day Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:34:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Glen http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28381 Glen Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:24:09 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28381 It's me again. Sorry, no disrespect intended to you personally, but to lump Gerrish together with David Icke is unfair in my opinion. They are lumped together because they are both 'conspiracy theorists',which is these days a stick with which to bash just about anyone who does not agree 100% with what the bbc or the Murdoch media report, ditto the papers wether it;s the Guardian or the Daily Mail. I think that recession (or depression)is just what the controling elite are seeking at the moment in order to 1.centralise power and bring in one world government. 2. financial conrol by abolishing currencies, witness Osbourne's comments at the weekend likely to cause a strong devaluation of the pound and the bringing in of the euro as replacement currency unit. Witness Brown bahaving like a demi-god at the g20 summit and calling for a 'new world order'-he actually uses that exact phrase for freaks sake! I'm sorry if this bores you, you are free to delete anything you please. Respect It’s me again.

Sorry, no disrespect intended to you personally, but to lump Gerrish together with David Icke is unfair in my opinion.

They are lumped together because they are both ‘conspiracy theorists’,which is these days a stick with which to bash just about anyone who does not agree 100% with what the bbc or the Murdoch media report, ditto the papers wether it;s the Guardian or the Daily Mail.

I think that recession (or depression)is just what the controling elite are seeking at the moment in order to 1.centralise power and bring in one world government.
2. financial conrol by abolishing currencies, witness Osbourne’s comments at the weekend likely to cause a strong devaluation of the pound and the bringing in of the euro as replacement currency unit. Witness Brown bahaving like a demi-god at the g20 summit and calling for a ‘new world order’-he actually uses that exact phrase for freaks sake!

I’m sorry if this bores you, you are free to delete anything you please.

Respect

]]> By: Richard Greene http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28326 Richard Greene Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:56:27 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28326 Stef, Bring back the good old days when police chiefs inspectors exposed their knee caps down the local lodge, to JP's and captain's of industry. Now all the chief inspectors want to be in Common Purpose along with the journo's, lawyers and government movers and shakers; ah the allure of power. But the most galling thing of all is they want me to pay for it. Local govt, police, companies, westminster departments spending shedloads, and sending their 'leader's' to be inducted and network, the Common Purpose way. No more knee caps and silly secret handshakes. I hope public money wasn't spent on your CP 'graduation' Stef,
Bring back the good old days when police chiefs inspectors exposed their knee caps down the local lodge, to JP’s and captain’s of industry. Now all the chief inspectors want to be in Common Purpose along with the journo’s, lawyers and government movers and shakers; ah the allure of power.
But the most galling thing of all is they want me to pay for it. Local govt, police, companies, westminster departments spending shedloads, and sending their ‘leader’s’ to be inducted and network, the Common Purpose way. No more knee caps and silly secret handshakes.
I hope public money wasn’t spent on your CP ‘graduation’

]]> By: stef http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28230 stef Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:07:08 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28230 Oh man I am so bored of these constant comments popping into my inbox. Glen - what secrecy?! They had a bit of a rubbish website. Then they updated it. When people go on training days they are held under Chatham House Rule. That means that anything said on the day _can_ be repeated to other people, but _not_ attributed to the person who said it. So I can tell you that there was someone at the event that I was talking at who worked in a public sector organisation and nobody in her entire career had even nudged her in the direction of even thinking about starting her own business. Out of the group of people I was working with she had the best business idea and came up to me afterwards saying that she was going away inspired about new possibilities in her career. The only part of that story that I can't tell you is her name. These guys are just a flipping underfunded boring-as-you-like management training organisation that doesn't make a big profit from what they do. They don't have tonnes of cash to spend on PR and marketing like commercial organisations (check out the day rates and compare) that don't have an ethical/social standpoint, hence the crappy website. Lay off - you're barking up the wrong tree, and the fact that we're even continuing to discuss all of this nonsense is just boring me senseless. Look around - the country is in financial meltdown! Whose fault is that? Whose 'secrecy' is to blame? If these guys are a 'hidden hand' controlling the UK then don't you think they'd make sure that their entire business model wasn't threatened by recession? But on the flip side, we've got people above saying 'blah blah taxpayers money, blah blah'. That's equivalent to saying "I don't think we should send people in highly responsible leadership positions for training - a waste of money if you ask me", and I bet they're the same people who would say "he's not up to the job - he's not got the experience nor the expertise" when they screw up. Personally, I think that the more well trained leaders we have in society the better, and perhaps if they have a wider set of experiences then they might screw up less and have more to draw on when big decisions have to be made. Oh man I am so bored of these constant comments popping into my inbox.

Glen - what secrecy?! They had a bit of a rubbish website. Then they updated it. When people go on training days they are held under Chatham House Rule. That means that anything said on the day _can_ be repeated to other people, but _not_ attributed to the person who said it.

So I can tell you that there was someone at the event that I was talking at who worked in a public sector organisation and nobody in her entire career had even nudged her in the direction of even thinking about starting her own business. Out of the group of people I was working with she had the best business idea and came up to me afterwards saying that she was going away inspired about new possibilities in her career.

The only part of that story that I can’t tell you is her name.

These guys are just a flipping underfunded boring-as-you-like management training organisation that doesn’t make a big profit from what they do. They don’t have tonnes of cash to spend on PR and marketing like commercial organisations (check out the day rates and compare) that don’t have an ethical/social standpoint, hence the crappy website.

Lay off - you’re barking up the wrong tree, and the fact that we’re even continuing to discuss all of this nonsense is just boring me senseless.

Look around - the country is in financial meltdown! Whose fault is that? Whose ’secrecy’ is to blame? If these guys are a ‘hidden hand’ controlling the UK then don’t you think they’d make sure that their entire business model wasn’t threatened by recession?

But on the flip side, we’ve got people above saying ‘blah blah taxpayers money, blah blah’. That’s equivalent to saying “I don’t think we should send people in highly responsible leadership positions for training - a waste of money if you ask me”, and I bet they’re the same people who would say “he’s not up to the job - he’s not got the experience nor the expertise” when they screw up.

Personally, I think that the more well trained leaders we have in society the better, and perhaps if they have a wider set of experiences then they might screw up less and have more to draw on when big decisions have to be made.

]]> By: Glen http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28213 Glen Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:30:53 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28213 I've come across that organisation. The question arises,if they have nothing to hide, them why all the friggin secrecy? No, you don't have to believe in lizard aliens, just corrupt eurocrats who seek to bring about a hidden hand controlin the UK. I Find the allegations of child brainwashing and very worrying indeed and I am deeply suspicious of this organisation. I’ve come across that organisation. The question arises,if they have nothing to hide, them why all the friggin secrecy?

No, you don’t have to believe in lizard aliens, just corrupt eurocrats who seek to bring about a hidden hand controlin the UK.

I Find the allegations of child brainwashing and very worrying indeed and I am deeply suspicious of this organisation.

]]> By: Gavin http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28185 Gavin Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:03:04 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28185 Penny has hit the nail on the head, for me. I've only just come across this 'Common Purpose', but I've read through most of their website and find it very worrying. I think all taxpaying citizens have a right to be uncomfortable about vast amounts of our money being spent on this training/PC brainwashing, without being ridiculed as 'weirdos'. The whole thing seems to be set up to further reinforce the liberal elite which already has far too much influence in this country and is far removed from the common working class man and woman. I've also watched the Brian Gerrish video and, beyond the rather silly references to Hitler and submarines at the beginning, he goes on to show evidence that should make anybody, of any political persuasion, concerned. And no mention of lizards. Even if the most nefarious aspects of this organisation are only in his imagination, at least it's spurring him on to investigate what appears to be a shocking waste of OUR money and a rather arrogant, unelected group of individuals striving to gain far too much political control without mandate from the public. Some of you may be happy with your money being spent on such things. I'm certainly not. Penny has hit the nail on the head, for me. I’ve only just come across this ‘Common Purpose’, but I’ve read through most of their website and find it very worrying. I think all taxpaying citizens have a right to be uncomfortable about vast amounts of our money being spent on this training/PC brainwashing, without being ridiculed as ‘weirdos’. The whole thing seems to be set up to further reinforce the liberal elite which already has far too much influence in this country and is far removed from the common working class man and woman. I’ve also watched the Brian Gerrish video and, beyond the rather silly references to Hitler and submarines at the beginning, he goes on to show evidence that should make anybody, of any political persuasion, concerned. And no mention of lizards. Even if the most nefarious aspects of this organisation are only in his imagination, at least it’s spurring him on to investigate what appears to be a shocking waste of OUR money and a rather arrogant, unelected group of individuals striving to gain far too much political control without mandate from the public. Some of you may be happy with your money being spent on such things. I’m certainly not.

]]> By: STEVE http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28183 STEVE Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:58:30 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28183 Stumbled on all of this today when I read a mail on news.bbc about Obama being a "Communitarian". I'd never even heard of CP before 07:00 this morning! When I look at the CP web site all I see is a management consultancy run by people smart enough to know how to make a few quid out of (no doubt) stating the obvious about getting to work on time and not overly upsetting your staff. Like most of those types of enterprises they are generally run by people who seem to know how to "manage" as opposed to "do"; i.e. not many farmers or welders in the Trustees list are their? Crap about "leadership" skills is fertile ground to plough for a fast buck, checkout the vast number of titles on Amazon about it. My only concern is how they can be a charity given that they don't seem to do anything charitable; but then I don't know what the rules are, maybe Al Quaeda could be a charity, they train people don't they? So basically the Church of Scientology they probably aren't, but they sure as hell aren't Marie Curie Cancer Care. Stumbled on all of this today when I read a mail on news.bbc about Obama being a “Communitarian”.
I’d never even heard of CP before 07:00 this morning!
When I look at the CP web site all I see is a management consultancy run by people smart enough to know how to make a few quid out of (no doubt) stating the obvious about getting to work on time and not overly upsetting your staff. Like most of those types of enterprises they are generally run by people who seem to know how to “manage” as opposed to “do”; i.e. not many farmers or welders in the Trustees list are their?

Crap about “leadership” skills is fertile ground to plough for a fast buck, checkout the vast number of titles on Amazon about it.

My only concern is how they can be a charity given that they don’t seem to do anything charitable; but then I don’t know what the rules are, maybe Al Quaeda could be a charity, they train people don’t they?

So basically the Church of Scientology they probably aren’t, but they sure as hell aren’t Marie Curie Cancer Care.

]]> By: Jim Elliot http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-28066 Jim Elliot Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:00:22 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-28066 I watched the Brian Gerrish video. He backed his argument with evidence in the form of Freedom of Information requests. Where is your evidence to support the honest intent and practice of Common Purpose? By writing editorial one would expect of the National Enquirer as opposed to a balanced argument you have displayed highly discreditable reporting. I was hoping to learn something here. I will look elsewhere. I watched the Brian Gerrish video. He backed his argument with evidence in the form of Freedom of Information requests. Where is your evidence to support the honest intent and practice of Common Purpose?

By writing editorial one would expect of the National Enquirer as opposed to a balanced argument you have displayed highly discreditable reporting.

I was hoping to learn something here. I will look elsewhere.

]]> By: Penny http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-21560 Penny Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:28:16 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-21560 Im a left-winger and disagree that CP and the pro EU people are marxists. The EU is run for and on behalf of big business and tramples on the liberties of the working classes of europe. CP - im no expert, but it sounds totally elitist and is certainly no friend of the working classes or of open accountable true as opposed to sham democracy. We nedd Peoples Power not CP or EU superstate power Im a left-winger and disagree that CP and the pro EU people are marxists. The EU is run for and on behalf of big business and tramples on the liberties of the working classes of europe. CP - im no expert, but it sounds totally elitist and is certainly no friend of the working classes or of open accountable true as opposed to sham democracy. We nedd Peoples Power not CP or EU superstate power

]]> By: Andre http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-18270 Andre Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:53:46 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-18270 Avoiding fluoridated water is how I manage to stay awake and alert to such infiltrations into our lives. Avoiding fluoridated water is how I manage to stay awake and alert to such infiltrations into our lives.

]]> By: Dave http://steflewandowski.com/2008/05/common-purpose-seven-foot-high-lizards/comment-page-1/#comment-18018 Dave Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:12 +0000 http://www.steflewandowski.com/?p=412#comment-18018 The whole point of Chatham House rules is so people from different organisations can talk about failures and problems without fear of them being made public. If you want people to learn how to manage effectively then real life examples work best. Who is going to share them if someone else in the room will make them public? Sure, CP is a Marxist pro EU institution. But just because a couple of oddballs turn it into a conspiracy issue doesn't make it a branch of Satan or a collective of lizards. The whole point of Chatham House rules is so people from different organisations can talk about failures and problems without fear of them being made public.

If you want people to learn how to manage effectively then real life examples work best. Who is going to share them if someone else in the room will make them public?

Sure, CP is a Marxist pro EU institution. But just because a couple of oddballs turn it into a conspiracy issue doesn’t make it a branch of Satan or a collective of lizards.

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